Sunday, 2 August 2020

Follow me down a rabbit hole: Hynes family of Broadford, Co. Clare

This is the fifth post in a series (starting here) concluding the investigation into a number of DNA cousins, all likely related to us on our 'Hynes' line. The origin of our matches' ancestors—Michael Rochford Hynes and his sister Anne Rochford Hynes, who emigrated to Queensland, Australia in the late 1860s—were traced back to the parish of Broadford, Co. Clare. Michael and Anne's father, Edmond Hynes, farmed there, in the townlands of Woodfield and Killaderry.

Church registers for the parish prior to 1844 have been lost, making the research more challenging. Yet, a number of probable siblings of Michael and Anne have been identified and traced forward, with a view to finding them named as associates in records pertaining to our own ancestors, or perhaps finding their descendants in our lists of DNA matches.

Patrick Hynes, the son of Edmond Hynes, was a farmer in Woodfield, when he married Mary Fennessy in Feakle parish, on 13 February 1866. They made their home in Woodfield, and had ten children, nine of whom survived infancy. His daughter Catherine said he was fifty-eight years old when he died on 28 March 1898, so born about 1839-40, or maybe earlier. None of his descendants appear among our DNA matches.

Edmond Hynes was a farmer in Broadford, the son of Edmond Hynes, according to the register of his marriage to Mary Kiely, in Killaloe parish, on 7 February 1869. The couple lived in Fahymore, near Bridgetown, not far from Broadford and also had a string of children. Records show Edmond was born between about 1839 and 1846, though he may have been born even earlier. None of his descendants were identified among our DNA matches.

Winifred (Winny) Hynes of Killaderry married Edmond Corcoran in Broadford on 12 February 1860, witnessed by Pat Hynes of Killaderry and Bridget Prendergast of O'Callaghans Mills. They lived in Springmount, in Fahymore, Co. Clare, where Edmond Corcoran was a farmer. They had six children. Two daughters, Bridget and Margaret, emigrated to Queensland, while the sons remained in Ireland. None of their descendants were found among our DNA matches.

Catherine Hynes and Edward Hickey from Killaderry/Woodfield baptised two children in Broadford—Mary on 27 April 1862 and Michael on 18 February 1865. Mary's Godparents were Michael and Anne Hynes of Killaderry, perhaps the same pair that emigrated to Queensland. Michael's Godparents were Pat Hynes of Woodfield and Bridget O'Grady of Feakle. All further record of this family currently escapes me.

Margaret Hynes of Woodfield married Denis Hayes in Broadford on 1 November 1859. They had one daughter Bridget born in Broadford village, and baptised in Broadford church on 26 August 1860. Bridget's Godparents were Patrick Hynes and Winny Hynes from Killaderry. Nothing further has been found relating to Margaret's family.

Bridget Hynes was probably an elder sibling too. She was living in Killaderry when she married John O'Brien, in Broadford parish, on 5 February 1854. She had one son, also John, baptised in Moynoe parish on 9 March 1856. Young John emigrated to Queensland, Australia, where his daughter Margaret Ann O'Brien was born in 1890. Margaret Ann had three sons, George Francis Williams, Margaret Edith Williams and Robert Arthur Williams.

Members of my extended 'Hynes' family are DNA cousins of Margaret Edith's grandson and Robert Arthur's son. The DNA segments they share are tiny, but they are probably further evidence of our distant connection with this family. They may perhaps be just noise.

Mary Hynes of Feakle was Godmother to Patrick Hynes' eldest son Michael, baptised in November 1866. The church records for Feakle don't start until 1860, which doesn't help, but members of my extended 'Hynes' family have DNA matches with her descendants—many of them in the 4th to 6th cousin bracket. Siblings J.B. and K.L. are the great-grandchildren of Edward Hynes Grady, the son of Mary Hynes that emigrated to New York. It's also apparent J.B. is related to W.M., a descendant of Michael Rochford Hynes.

(Click on image to enlarge)

There is no doubt we all family, but how far back?. If my third great-grandfather John Hynes was a brother of Edmond Hynes senior, that would make Edmond's descendants of the same generation my 5th cousins. Only about 30% of fifth cousin share any detectable DNA, and even less 6th cousins do. Our actual relationship is possibly more distant still.

None of 'the siblings' are apparent among my Hynes family's FAN club (Friends, Associates and Neighbours). And, given 'official' records have been lost, or never maintained in the first place, there's little chance evidence of our exact relationship exists today. Still, our origins and the origins of this family are the same, which may point to where my third-great-grandfather came from, before he ended up a carpenter in Limerick city.

1. Catholic parish registers, accessed on $ FindMyPast, $ RootsIreland, $ Ancestry, NLI, with the help of a transcript for Broadford Parish prepared by my cousin Aileen, and an online family tree prepared by my cousin Phyllis.
2. Civil records of births, marriages and deaths from 1864, on
3. Queensland Government, Family History Research Service.
4. 'New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949", database, FamilySearch, Edward H. Grady, 1931.

Sunday, 26 July 2020

Signature Silhouette #7 ~ James Mahon

For many of my ancestors, we have no photographs, no treasured heirlooms, not even a funeral card to remember them by. But of those who could read and write, a few left their signatures behind. They often signed historical census returns, for example, copies of which still survive. Apart from descendants, their signature may be all that remains of them today. So, it's my intention to feature a Signature Silhouette for each ancestor, on a regular basis, until they are all are preserved.

Here's one for my paternal great-great-grandfather, James Mahon:-

James Mahon (1827-1903)

Idea courtesy of Cathy Meder-Dempsey at Opening Doors in Brick Walls.

Source of signature: 1901 Census of Ireland, Mahon/Byrne household, Yellow Walls, Malahide, Dublin, The National Archives of Ireland.

Sunday, 19 July 2020

Follow me down a rabbit hole ~ Origins in Ireland

This is the fourth post in a series (starting here) investigating a number of DNA cousins, likely related on my 'Hynes' line. On tracing their families back in time, their ancestors, a brother and sister, were found to have left Ireland for Queensland, Australia, in the 1860s.

In 1871, at the time of his marriage, Michael Rochford Hynes helpfully advised he was born in Broadford, Co. Clare, about 1844. His sister Anne Rochford Hynes, who married in 1865, less cooperatively stated she born in Woodville, Ireland, about 1843. Their parents were named as Edmond Hynes, a farmer, and Bridget Rochford.

John Grenhams's Irish Ancestors initially helped identify the twenty-nine parishes, home to both Hynes and Rochford families c. 1850. People tended to marry from within their own parish, or the adjoining ones, so this tool is often useful in pinpointing a couple's origins. Feakle, in Co. Clare, had the highest number of Rochford families (eleven), while twelve Hynes families lived in Rahoon, Co. Galway. However, Tulla, in Co. Clare, probably provided the best bet statistically, with five families sporting each surname. The tool brought us remarkably close to Broadford, in fairness.

Catholic parishes, NLI

According to Samuel Lewis in 1837, Broadford was a post town in the civil parish of Kilseily, in Co. Clare, eight miles north of Limerick. It was part of the Roman Catholic diocese of Killaloe, where the parish was also known as Killokennedy and Kilseily. At the time of his writing, a new Roman Catholic church was being built on a hill overlooking Broadford, while the Protestant congregation was served by a church situated in the village itself.

Unfortunately, the Catholic baptism registers for Broadford begin on 19 January 1844 and the marriage registers on 10 February 1844, just a bit too late for current research goals. Seemingly, prior records have been lost. A thorough search of the baptism register (thanks Aileen) failed to locate the likely baptism of Michael Rochford Hynes in 1844. Perhaps he was older than he thought. Further, the Church of Ireland records for the period, if relevant to this family, perished in the Four Courts in 1922. This might explain why no trace of Edmund Hynes and Bridget Rochford was found in Ireland.

Lewis described the district as being of 'good arable land under an improving system of tillage', with mountain pasture and bog as well. There were also a number of slate quarries selling good quality slate to the Limerick and Ennis markets. If Edmond Hynes was a farmer in Broadford, he would undoubtedly have paid rates (property tax) and been documented in Kilseily parish, in Griffith's Valuation. Before rates were introduced, he may also have been recorded in the Tithe Applotment Books for the parish. And he featured in both.

Kilseily townlands, Edmond Hynes property

The Valuation of Kilseily parish, dated December 1851 (and not 1856, as indexed by, shows Edmond Hynes lived in the townland of Woodfield, overlooking Doon lake, and farmed fifteen acres there. He farmed a further nineteen acres in the adjoining townland of Killaderry (O'Brien), where he sub-let a house to a Catherine Flanagan. He also leased an area of slate quarry in Hurdleston.

Broadford was a small village of only 383 inhabitants, according to Lewis, who probably quoted the 1831 census. So Edmond was almost certainly Michael Rochford Hynes' father. 'Woodville', where Anne Rochford Hynes said she was from, was likely a corruption of Woodfield, perhaps as a result of Anne's East Clare accent to an unaccustomed ear. Or, maybe it was a ploy on her part to sound 'posher' than she really was. Maybe she was ashamed of her 'small-farmer' background upon marrying Edward Tabuteau, the son of Irish gentry.

In 1827, Ned Hynes paid tithes on land in Woodfield, Kilseily. Ned is a common variant of Edmond. My guess is, this was Michael and Anne's father, who married in the 1820s or early 1830s, and probably had several more children. Next week, the goal is to track them down and follow their descendants forward, and maybe identify more DNA cousins.

A Timothy Hynes and a John Hynes also lived in Kilseily parish in 1851. They lived in the townland of Gortnalough, marked 18 on the above map. It seems likely John was Timothy's son. Timothy might have been Edmond's brother. So, unless Timothy was Edmond's father too, it's still possible my third-great-grandfather, also John Hynes, was Edmond's brother. My John Hynes was said to have been a carpenter, with ties to Limerick city, fourteen miles away. 

1. Marriages between 1829 and 1945 - Anne Rochford Hynes in 1865 and Michael Hynes in 1871, source images, Queensland Government, Family History Research Service.
2. Samuel Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of Ireland, comprising the several counties, cities, boroughs, corporate, market, and post towns, parishes and villages, (London, 1837) v i, p. 226 and v ii, p.207-208. 
3. Catholic Parish Registers, Broadford, Diocese of Killaloe, accessed NLI.
4. Griffith's Valuation, Hynes, Kilseily, Co. Clare, accessed AskaboutIreland.
5. Map of Kilseily townlands, accessed Clare Library.
6. Tithe Applotment Books, 1823-1837, Hynes, Kilseily, Co. Clare (mis-filed under Hynes, Kilscoran, Co. Wexford) accessed The National Archives of Ireland.

Image: Sir John Tenniel's illustration of 'The White Rabbit', in Lewis Carroll's The Nursery Alice (London, 1890), accessed on Wikipedia.

Sunday, 5 July 2020

Follow me down a rabbit hole - Michael Rochford Hynes

This is the third post in a series (starting here) exploring the DNA matches shared between members of my extended Wynne-Hynes family and descendants of Edward Mayne Mollier Tabuteau and Anne Rochford Hynes.

As noted last week, Edward and Anne settled in New Zealand in the late-1860s. Edward's birthplace was stated as 'Dublin, Ireland' in their son's WWI Attestation Form, while Anne's was frustratingly reduced to just 'Ireland' in the same document. Anne and my great-great-grandmother, Bridget (Hynes) Wynne, share a maiden name, hence my heightened interest in her origins.

The Rochford-Hynes family's origins in Ireland
Various online family trees indicate Edmund Hynes and Bridget Rochford were Anne Rochford Hynes' parents, however no record of the couple can be found back in Ireland.

Edward Tabuteau and Anne Rochford Hynes married in Queensland, Australia, on 27 November 1865, shortly before their move to New Zealand. They married in St John's 'Anglican' Church in Brisbane. Anne's parents were confirmed as Edmund Hynes, a farmer, and Bridget Rochford. Anne was then 22 years old, so born about 1843, with her place of birth given as 'Woodville', in Ireland.

"Woodville! where on earth is that?" I asked in disbelief, having forking out for information on her birthplace. 

Perhaps Woodville is a townland in Tipperary, Waterford, Kilkenny, Mayo or Dublin, going by Normally, immigrants give their county of origin as their birthplace, or maybe the name of the nearest large town, or at least their village—not some tiny townland in the middle of nowhere.

Anne seems very coy about admitting where she came from.

1865, Marriage, Anne Rochford Hynes, Source image,
Queensland Government

Michael Rochford Hynes
Except, that's not all that was found in Queensland, thankfully. Michael Rochford Hynes lived there too, and at around the same time as Anne. He was surely her brother. So his source marriage image was obtained too. This was the document provided to the civil authorities in Queensland, to register his marriage.

Michael married Anne Smith on 13 November 1871, in St Patrick's 'Catholic' church, in Gympie, a town 160 kilometres north of Brisbane. The marriage certificate confirmed Michael's parents as Edmund Hynes and Bridget Rotchford, a slightly different spelling of his mother's surname, though undoubtedly the same parents as Anne. The document also gave Michael's birthplace as Broadford, in Co. Clare.

At last, somewhere to pin-point on a map!

1871, Marriage, Michael Rochford Hynes, Source image,
Queensland Government

Our DNA matches with descendants of Michael Hynes and Anne Smith
Several of my Wynne-Hynes cousins have DNA matches shared in common with descendants of Anne Rocford Hynes. If any of these DNA matches descend from Michael Rochford Hynes, it's practically a given our ancestors were related to Edmund Hynes or Bridget Rochford. And, they do.

Michael and Anne had eight children:
  • Bridget Hynes was born in 1872, died in infancy;
  • Mary Bridget Hynes was born in 1874 and married Christopher Francis Fitzpatrick;
  • Margaret Ann Hynes was born in 1878 and married Richard Alexander MacLellan;
  • Edmond Patrick Hynes was born in 1880 and married Gertrude Jessie Mary King;
  • John Thomas Hynes was born in 1883 and died in 1928, unmarried;
  • Winifred Eileen Hynes was born about 1890 and married John Francis McGrath;
  • Michael Rochford Hynes was born about 1892 and died in 1951, unmarried;
  • Patrick William Hynes was born about 1893 and married Margaret Mary Lyons.
Members of my extended Wynne-Hynes family match three probable descendants of Michael and Anne (Smith) Hynes, one via their daughter Margaret (Hynes) MacLellan and two via their daughter Winifred (Hynes) McGrath. They've been labeled Axelsen, M1 and M2, respectively. None of them responded to my messages.

The first match, Axelsen, has no family tree online, but Margaret (Hynes) MacLellan's daughter Teresa married a Peter Axelsen. It's not such a common surname and he also shares DNA with the two McGrath matches, and with TL, a descendant of Anne Rochford Hynes discussed previously.

Axelsen shares DNA with Paul, who descends from my great-great-grandmother's daughter Agnes, and with my Aunt Anne, her first cousin Larry and myself, who all descend from her son Patrick, as well as with Phyllis, who descends from her daughter Mary.

M1 has an online family tree that shows her grandfather as Jack McGrath who died in 1996, and her great-grandfather as 'Rochford McGrath'. Doesn't that sound like we're on the right path! And, Winifred (Hynes) McGrath had a son John Joseph (i.e. Jack) born in 1917, who died in 1996. M1 shares DNA with Paul, with my Aunt Anne, with Larry and with me.

M2 has no online family tree, but he shares DNA with M1 and Axelsen, and with TL too. He also matches Paul, my first cousin Aileen, my Aunt Anne and me, as well as Holly, who descends from my great-great-grandmother's son John.

Plus, and this is key—M1 has an estimated 4th-6th cousin match with Janet, a descendant of my great-great-grandmother's sister, Catherine (Hynes) Tucker. We know this because Janet is named as a shared match between M1 and Paul, and between M1 and me. She may also have an estimated 5th-8th cousin match with other descendants of Michael Rochford Hynes and/or Anne Rochford Hynes, but such distant matches do not appear on's shared matches lists. provides no way to tell whether or not we all share some of the same segments of DNA, which would confirm we inherited them from the same specific ancestor(s). Nevertheless, it certainly smacks of us all being of the same family—the Hynes family—a fuzzy triangulation, of sorts.

Little doubt remains that my great-great-great-grandparents, John Hynes and Margaret (maiden name unknown, but maybe Hayes), the parents of Bridget (Hynes) Wynne and Catherine (Hynes) Tucker, were somehow related to Edmund Hynes and Bridget Rochford. John and Edmund could even have been brothers! John had a son named Edward, which in Ireland at least is a variant of Edmund.

Several of these matches share only single 'large' segments of DNA, which may have been carried down for generations, so our relationship might be far more distant. Thus, caution is needed, especially as the limited functionality at provides no further information about the segments in question. Still... 

Certain 'conflicts' in the paperwork remain unresolved, e.g. How does Anne Rochford Hynes' birth in Woodville reconcile with Michael Rochford Hynes' birth in Broadford? Were the Rochford-Hynes family Catholic or Protestant? Why is there no sign of Edmund Hynes and Bridget Rochford in Irish records? Tune in next week for more answers. There was a Hynes family in Broadford that may fit the bill.

Continued here.

1. 'New Zealand, World War I Service Records', Attestation for General Service, 1917, Joseph Agustus Moliere Tabuteau, accessed Archives New Zealand Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga.
2. Marriages between 1829 and 1945 - Anne Rochford Hynes in 1865 and Michael Hynes in 1871, source images, Queensland Government, Family History Research Service.
3. Births: Bridget Hynes in 1872, Mary Bridget Hynes in 1874, Margaret Ann Hynes in 1878, Edmund Patrick Hynes in 1880, John Thomas Hynes in 1883, Teresa Frances MacLellan in 1911 and John Joseph McGrath in 1917; Marriages:; MacLellan-Hynes in 1902, McGrath-Hynes in 1916 and Axelsen-MacLellan in 1942; index accessed on Queensland Government, Family History Research Service.

Image: Sir John Tenniel's illustration of 'The White Rabbit', in Lewis Carroll's The Nursery Alice (London, 1890), accessed on Wikipedia.

Sunday, 28 June 2020

Follow me down a rabbit hole - Anne Rochford Hynes

This is the second post in a series (starting here) exploring a DNA match with a lady (we’re calling her TL), who shares DNA with several members of my extended Wynne-Hynes family. TL's great-great-grandmother was Anne Rochford Hynes, born in Ireland about 1843. Anne had the same surname as my great-great-grandmother, Bridget (Hynes) Wynne, hence the investigation.

Anne Rochford Hynes and her husband Edward Mayne Mollier Tabuteau were settlers in New Zealand, in the latter half of the 1860s. They settled on a 99-acre farm at Hupara, near Kawakawa, in the Northland region.[1]

Two questions must now be answered in respect of Anne Rochford Hynes. First, where exactly did she come from in Ireland? and secondly, have members of my extended family got any other DNA matches with her descendants?

Origins in Ireland
The only mention of Edward and Anne’s Irish origins found in New Zealand came from their son Joseph’s World War I ‘Attestation’ form. This document confirms his father Edward Tabuteau was born in Dublin, Ireland. But, his mother Anne Tabuteau’s birthplace was given solely as ‘Ireland’. Not a good start! Why was the county of her birth not stated? [2]

Joseph Augustus Moliere Tabuteau, Attestation for General Service, 1917

Edward Mayne Tabuteau’s baptism on 15 November 1841 was then easily found in the registers of St Mary’s Anglican Church, Dublin (despite his surname being transcribed incorrectly as Johntea). He was born at 122 Abbey Street, in Dublin city, on 25 October 1841, the son of Bartholomew Moliere Tabuteau, a wine merchant, and Mary Jane. [3]

Despite extensive searching, there was no sign of Anne Rochford Hynes’ baptism in Ireland, nor any trace of her supposed parents, named as Edward Hynes and Bridget Rochford in several family trees found online. Not such a good start at all!

DNA matches with descendants of Edward Tabuteau and Anne Hynes
Edward and Anne had five children born in New Zealand. Harriette was born in 1867, Annie in 1869, Thomas Edward in 1871, Joseph Augustus Moliere in 1873 and Richard Arthur in 1875. Thomas died, unmarried, in 1894 and Joseph in 1940, leaving only three children with potential descendants. [4]

The couple’s firstborn child, Harriette Tabuteau, married John Alexander Lindesay Hall in 1885. They had eleven children, all girls. Their youngest daughter Frances Harriette May Hall was TL’s grandmother, but none of their other descendants are apparent among our DNA matches. [5]

Second born Annie Tabuteau married Norman May in 1897. They had two children, a boy, and a girl. Both went on to marry, but their descendants are not apparent among our DNA matches. [5]

Their youngest son, Richard Arthur Tabuteau, married Mabel Vaughan Johnston in 1906, and the couple had three sons. Several members of my 'Wynne-Hynes’ family, who descend from Bridget Hynes's children Agnes Patrick, Mary and John, all match two chaps sporting the Tabuteau surname. Let’s call them T1 and T2. I suspect they descend from one or more of Richard's sons.[5]

My 'cousin' Paul, who descends from Bridget's daughter Agnes, has an estimated 4th-6th cousin match with T1 and an estimated 5th-8th cousin match with T2. We also know T1 is related to TL, as she is listed among Paul and T1’s shared matches on

Larry, who descends from Bridget's son Patrick, shares an estimated 4th-6th cousin match with T1 and an estimated 5th-8th cousin match with T2. Again, T1 is shown as related to TL, with her being listed among Larry and T1’s shared matches on

Phyllis, who descends from Bridget's daughter Mary, shares an estimated 5th-8th cousin match with T1.

Holly, who descends from Bridget's son John, shares an estimated 5th-8th cousin match with both T1 and T2. 

Neither my Aunt Anne, my first cousin Aileen, nor I, share any discernible DNA with the Tabuteau lads. Aileen, Phyllis, Holly and I are all a generation removed.

We know T1 is related to TL, so it’s quite possible he descends from Richard, and thus also has the Hynes surname in his family tree. I’m betting the same goes for T2, except he shares less than 20cM DNA with TL, excluding him from's shared matches calculation. It is also possible they're related on a different Tabuteau line completely, though I'd like to believe otherwise.

Next, I'll follow up on Anne Rochford (Hynes) Tabuteau's origins in Ireland, and identify more of the DNA matches we share in common with her descendant(s). Hopefully, that will confirm the match is definitely on their Hynes side, and rule out Edward Tabuteau being the source of our match; he did live alongside our ancestors in Dublin city, after-all. Tune in next week for an update.

Continued, here.

1. New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1871-72, no. 445, Edward Mayne Tabuteau, freehold, Kawakawa Settlement, transcription accessed at FindMyPast; A Return of the Freeholders of New Zealand, October 1882, Edward Mayn Tabuteau, settler, Kawakawa, 99 acres, transcription accessed at FindMyPast.
2.'New Zealand, World War I Service Records', Attestation for General Service, 1917, Joseph Agustus Moliere Tabuteau, accessed Archives New Zealand Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga.
3. Baptism of Edward Mayne Tabuteau of 122- Abbey St., St Mary COI, accessed Church records on
4. Births 1867/10858, Births 1869/12060, Births 1871/12398, Births 1875/5383, Deaths 1894/3967, Deaths 1940/17537, accessed New Zealand, Births, Deaths Marriages Online; Birth Joseph Tabuteau, Attestation for General Service, 1917.
5. Marriages 1885/2682, Marriages 1897/2521, Marriages 1906/5963, accessed Births, Deaths and Marriages Online.

Image: Sir John Tenniel's illustration of 'The White Rabbit', in Lewis Carroll's The Nursery Alice (London, 1890), accessed on Wikipedia.

Sunday, 21 June 2020

Follow me down a rabbit hole

When my friend Jacqi Stevens at A Family Tapestry recently proclaimed her intention to ‘plunge down rabbit holes with wild abandon to find answers to her questions, I came to the understanding that all my genealogy undertakings of late share similarities with Alice’s pursuit of the White Rabbit.

My current project—investigating our connection to several 'related' DNA matches—may also be a hopeless pursuit.The likelihood of ever obtaining the necessary evidence, to be nail down exactly how we are related, is probably poor, or else I’d have come across the documents already. Yet, the prospect of discovering further ancestors is so appealing, it justifies the risk of ending up on just another wild goose chase.

So… staying within the parameters of the rule 'start with what you know' 😉—we know our significant DNA matches are descendants of our ancestors—I'm looking at one of my closest unidentified DNA matches. Let's call her TL. places her in the 4th to 6th cousin bracket, based on us sharing one 39cM segment.

TL also shares an estimated 4th-6th cousin match (one 41cM segment) with my Aunt Anne, an estimated 4th-6th cousin match (one 32cM segment) with Anne's first cousin Larry, and an estimated 5th-8th cousin match (8cM in two segments) with their second cousin Paul. Anne and Larry descend from Bridget Hynes' son Patrick, while Paul descends from Bridget's daughter Agnes. TL does not match my cousins Phyllis, Holly or Aileen, who descend from Bridget's children, Mary, John and Patrick, respectively.

Bear in mind, estimates only 32% of 5th cousins, 11% of 6th cousins and only 3% of 7th cousins share enough DNA for the relationship to be detected.

TL didn't respond to my message, but she does have a fairly decent online family tree, now based in New Zealand. Only one ancestral couple among all her great-great-grandparents came from Ireland, and only the wife was of actual Irish origin. TL's tree named her immigrant Irish ancestor as Anne Rochford Hynes, born about 1843. Anne's parents were shown as Edmond Hynes and Bridget Rochford. My second-great-grandmother, Bridget Hynes, was born about 1831 in Limerick, the daughter of John and Margaret Hynes.

Normally, I'm wary of single segment matches, but this one is quite large, and a surname in common is a very good start. Wouldn't you agree! Let's see if we can connect Anne Rochfort Hynes to our family tree, and in so doing, see if we can learn anything more about our own ancestry.

But first, TL's ascent to Anne Rochfort Hynes, Edward Hynes and Bridget Rochfort needs to be verified, and their other descendants identified. Hopefully then the other, as yet unknown, DNA matches we share in common with TL might be properly placed in either her or our family tree. Join me next week to see what I find out.

Continued, here.

Image: Sir John Tenniel's illustration of 'The White Rabbit', in Lewis Carroll's The Nursery Alice (London, 1890), accessed on Wikipedia.

Sunday, 7 June 2020

On the far side of a brick wall #7 ~ Conclusions

After much searching, no further sign of Rosanna (Slattery) Corcoran / Cochrane's family has been uncovered, not since they were all together in Manchester, England, in 1881. You'd think some of her six children would have left a trail of breadcrumbs for me to follow. None of them did. Maybe someday one of their descendants will turn up among our DNA matches. 🙏

Circumstantial evidence suggests Rosanna was a half-sister to Mary Anne Leonard, and both were daughters of Mary (Riley, Leonard) Slattery. Chances are Mary Leonard was my third-great-grandmother, who married John Radcliffe in Liverpool in 1848. My goals have been 1) to find documentary evidence definitively stating Mary Leonard was a daughter of Mary [Riley] Slattery; 2) to confirm this Mary Leonard was the one who married John Radcliffe; and 3) to 'prove' John Radcliffe and Mary Leonard were my third-great-grandparents.

Confirming Mary Leonard as the daughter of Mary (Riley) Slattery
Prior to the COVID-19 lock-down, I ordered the copy death register for Mary Slattery, aged forty, who died in Liverpool, in the second quarter of 1847. The hope was it would show the informant as 'Mary Leonard, daughter.' But the record arrived in my in-box recently, with no such luck!

Copy death register, Mary Slattery, 1847, Liverpool, General Register Office

Mary Slattery died of phythisis (tuberculosis) at home in Sawney Pope Street. As a bonus, her occupation was shown as the 'widow of Thomas Slattery, labourer'. So the record is for the right woman. But the informant was 'Mary Slattery, present at death, Sawney Pope Street', not 'Mary Leonard, daughter'. Who was this other Mary Slattery? Was she Mary Leonard using her step-father's name - nothing unusual in that - but if so, it is unusual her relationship to the deceased was not stated (going by the practice in Ireland, anyway).

There was a death of a another Mary Slattery, aged forty, in Liverpool, in the same quarter of 1847 - too much of a coincidence to be ignored. This copy register will be obtained when the General Registry Office staff get back to normal after the lock-down. It may possibly throw further light on the situation.

Confirming it was this Mary Leonard that married John Radcliffe
It's now apparent, documentation likely never existed directly connecting the Slatterys to the Radcliffes (other than John and Mary's marriage record, that is). Mary and Thomas Slattery died in the Spring of 1847, while Mary Leonard and John Radcliffe did not marry until January 1848, and Mary [Leonard] Radcliffe supposedly died in April 1853, four years before Rosanna Slattery married James Corcoran.

The circumstantial evidence collected, including the census listing Mary Leonard among the children of Mary and Thomas Slattery, in Liverpool, in 1841, and the records confirming the Slatterys, Mary Leonard and John Radcliffe all lived in Sawney Pope Street, Liverpool in 1847/1848, will have to suffice.

'Proving' Mary (Leonard) Radcliffe was my third-great-grandmother
A final objective of this research has been to find further evidence confirming John and Mary (Leonard) Radcliffe were my John and Mary. Much available evidence suggests they were (discussed previously here and here), bar two minor conflicts.

First, their daughter, Anne Radcliffe, was born in Liverpool, in 1849. My great-great-grandmother, Anne Radcliffe, daughter of John and Mary (maiden name not documented) Radcliffe, was born about 1849, but both surviving Irish census returns say she was born in Co. Dublin, Ireland. Granted, she grew up with her father's family in Malahide, Co. Dublin. Her mother died when she was a toddler and her father emigrated to Australia in 1858. Probably, she didn't remember her time in Liverpool. Maybe she did not know she was born in England, or just felt no connection to the country.

Secondly, the marriage of John Radcliffe and Mary Radcliffe was held in the Church of St Nicholas, according to the rites of the Established Church in Liverpool, i.e. a Protestant church. My John Radcliffe was from a Catholic family. He was baptised in 1827 and his father in 1798. But the fact that Anne, daughter of John and Mary (Leonard) Radcliffe, was baptised in St Anthony's Roman Catholic church, in Liverpool, suggests theirs was a mixed marriage. If Mary Leonard was my third-great-grandmother, she was probably Protestant.

Thomas and Mary (Riley) Slattery's children (Ellen, Thomas and Francis) were baptised in St Anthony's RC Church. Infants, Thomas and Francis, were buried in St Anthony's RC graveyard, as was Thomas Slattery himself - all in paupers graves. But when Mary (Riley) Slattery died, within weeks of her husband death, she was not buried in the same graveyard as her family. Why not? Was she buried in a Protestant graveyard instead? Is this another hint to seek out Protestant records to further the research on this branch of the family?

But where?

Sources: Copy death register, Mary Slattery, Apr-Jun 1847, Liverpool, General Register Office. All other sources referred to have been cited in previous posts in the 'On the far side of a brick wall' series: