In
a recent post, I mentioned the potential discovery of my Carroll family in
county Tipperary, the same county Maurice Carroll claimed as his birthplace. The actual record of my
great-great-grandfather’s baptism is still ‘missing’, but it seems his younger
sister Mary was christened in the parish of Fethard, in South Tipperary, in
November 1841. Her parents were David Carroll and Catherine Cummins, the same
names Maurice gave for his parents.[1]
Coolmoyne, Co. Tipperary on Google
Maps
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When
Mary was baptised, the family lived in Coolmoyne, a rural townland situated
between the towns of Cashel and Fethard. The family was still there in August
1850, when, according to a mid-nineteenth-century taxation survey, David
Carroll leased a small house and a tiny garden. For tax purposes, the rateable
valuation of the property amounted to only eleven shillings a year, a sure sign
the family was poor.[2]
Although
there were Carroll households in Fethard town in 1850, David’s was the only one
in Coolmoyne or its adjoining townlands. Apart from an unknown Ellen Carroll acting
as Mary’s Godmother, there is no indication they had Carroll relatives in
the area.
David Carroll’s holding was supposedly
situated at plot ‘5b’ on the below map of Coolmoyne, but '5b' is not apparent. Probably,
the map was re-drawn after the tax survey was published and after David Carroll
had left the area. Perhaps properties were renumbered and plot ‘4b’ marks the spot where the family once lived. A future
visit the Valuation Office in Dublin may clarify this. [see update below] I do know David Carroll
moved to Limerick before February 1859, by which time Maurice Carroll was in
Dublin city, marrying Mary Anne Frazer.
Coolmoyne, Co. Tipperary, 1850
(Griffith’s Valuation Map) [2]
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Identifying
a couple named David Carroll and Catherine Cummins living in the right place at
the right time, is surely a step in the right direction. Yet, the possibility of
it all being a big coincidence also crossed my mind. I wanted to find something
directly linking my great-great-grandfather, the man living in Dublin, back to Fethard.
Then, I discovered the baptism of his first wife, Mary Anne Frazer - she was born in Fethard too. It’s unlikely this was another chance occurrence. I'd found a link.
Then, I discovered the baptism of his first wife, Mary Anne Frazer - she was born in Fethard too. It’s unlikely this was another chance occurrence. I'd found a link.
Robert
Fraser and Mary Mara christened their daughter Mary in Fethard parish, in March
1829.[3] When she married Maurice Carroll, she went by the name Mary Anne and her parents
were named as Robert Frazer and Mary Meagher (pronounced Mar), of Clonmel, Co.
Tipperary.[4] The surname Frazer was not at all common in Tipperary. Plus, Mary Anne was said
to have been forty years old when she died in March 1868, a variance of only
one year.[5] So, chances are good these were Maurice’s in-laws.
Robert
Frazer had a small taxable holding in Fethard in 1828 and a trade directory
shows he operated as a boot and shoe maker in Main Street in the town, in 1846.[6] However, no further mention of my David Carroll was found anywhere, apart from the
baptism record of his son David, in 1847.[7] No one with the Carroll surname held taxable property in Fethard in 1828. Perhaps
our Carroll family was poor enough to fall outside the tax net, or maybe they
were living elsewhere.
Update 4 May 2016 - The first Cancelled Valuation Book in the Valuation Office is dated 1860, after David Carroll had left Coolmoyne. Mary Daly was named as the occupier of his house and garden of 38 perches. She was listed at plot 6b in the new book, but this plot is not immediately obvious on the map, either.
Update 4 May 2016 - The first Cancelled Valuation Book in the Valuation Office is dated 1860, after David Carroll had left Coolmoyne. Mary Daly was named as the occupier of his house and garden of 38 perches. She was listed at plot 6b in the new book, but this plot is not immediately obvious on the map, either.
[1] Mary
Carroll, Baptisms (1 Mar 1835 to 30 Jan 1847), Parish of Fethard, p. 73,
Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI.
[2] David
Carroll, Tullamain, Tipperary South, Griffith’s Valuation, Ask About Ireland.
[3] Mary
Fraser, Baptisms (1 Jun 1828 to 27 Feb 1835), Parish of Fethard, p. 16,
Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI.
[4] Marriage
register, Parish of St Nicholas, 1859, IrishGenealogy.ie.
[5] Copy
death register, Balrothery, 1868, General Register Office.
[6] Robert
Frazier, Tipperary, Tithe Applotment
Books 1823-37, National Archives of Ireland; Robert Frazer, Munster, Fethard, Slater's Commercial Directory of Ireland, 1846, FailteRomhat.
[7] David
Carroll, Baptisms (1 Mar 1835 to 30 Jan 1847), Parish of Fethard, p. 129,
Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI.
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In the movies, lawyers are quick to argue against circumstantial evidence, but if you have enough circumstantial evidence, you can make a strong case. It looks like you're there.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, what do the grey lines and dotted lines mean?
Thanks Wendy, I do think it's them! On the google map the grey lines are minor roads and the broken line is the county border (between Tipperary and Kilkenny). On the OSI map the grey lines are field boundary and the dots represent trees. or I always thought they were trees, I might be wrong ;-)
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for your visit. I've read and enjoyed several of your recent posts and really admire the way you tell a story so your comment meant a lot.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Wendy; it certainly looks as though you are there. Barbara.
Thank you, Barbara, everyone appreciates being complimented now and then.
ReplyDeleteI like the circumstantial evidence here. It looks like it to me. Congratulations!
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