Families across Ireland often adhered to a specific naming convention when it came to choosing names for their children. These naming practices endured from at least the end of the eighteenth century until well into the twentieth century, and are often used by genealogists today, when searching for their ancestors' unknown lineages. In fact, traditional Irish naming customs are sometimes considered the place to start, especially if there’s little to go on.
Traditional Irish Naming Customs
First son named after his paternal grandfather
Second son named after his maternal grandfather
Third son named after his father
Fourth son named after his father's eldest brother
Second son named after his maternal grandfather
Third son named after his father
Fourth son named after his father's eldest brother
Fifth son named after his mother’s eldest brother
First daughter named after her maternal grandmother
Second daughter named after her paternal grandmother
Second daughter named after her paternal grandmother
Third daughter named after her mother
Fourth daughter named after her mother's eldest sister
Fifth daughter named after her father’s eldest sisterFourth daughter named after her mother's eldest sister
So, taking my McGrane family as an example, I thought I’d check out just how effective this tool may be.
My great-great-grandfather, Myles McGrane, was born in November 1830 and his wife, Margaret Doyle, in January 1831. Both were reared in Dublin city. They got married in the Church of Saints Michael and John in Dublin on 26 January 1851. Myles and Margaret lived smack bang at a time when our traditional naming practices were supposedly most prevalent, so they should make for an interesting case study.
Their parents’ and many of their siblings’ names are reasonably well documented (by standards for the time and place), so we can easily evaluate the results.
The twelve known children of Myles McGrane and Margaret Doyle were:
Child’s name
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Date of baptism
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Date of death
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Margaret McGrane
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Dec 1851
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9 Dec 1930
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John Laurence McGrane
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Aug 1853
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15 Mar 1854
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Patrick McGrane
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Feb 1855
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21 Mar 1855
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Francis Joseph McGrane
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Apr 1856
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18 Feb 1931
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Catherine McGrane
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Oct 1858
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14 Jan 1860
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Sarah Jane McGrane
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Aug 1861
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5 Jun 1927
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Mary Anne McGrane
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Jul 1863
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2 Nov 1937
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Catherine McGrane
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Jul 1865
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10 May 1912
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Michael McGrane
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Apr 1868
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23 Dec 1929
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Alice McGrane
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Mar 1871
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14 Feb 1927
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Rosanna McGrane
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Feb 1873
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16 May 1879
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Elizabeth McGrane
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Jul 1878
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21 Aug 1881
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By applying the Irish naming pattern to the choice of children’s names, we would conclude Myles’ parents were John and Catherine, while Margaret’s were Patrick and Margaret. We’d have been mostly wrong, except that Myles’ father was John. But, we would have received some very useful clues - the order of the grandmothers’ names was merely switched. It’s only Margaret's father who was completely overlooked.
My third great-grandparents were in fact John and Margaret McGrane, and Paul and Catherine Doyle.
No surviving child was named after Paul, or after Myles himself. Yes, there are some small gaps in the birth order, making it a tad feasible the names Paul and/or Myles were given to an infant that was born sickly, baptised at home, and whose name never made it into the baptism register. But, the especially important family names were usually repeated if the first child died – e.g. Catherine - and these names were not.
So, perhaps Paul Doyle was an unlikeable character, who they all wished they could forget. We don’t know much about him. He was a weaver or a dyer by trade. He died in January 1872, stated age seventy-two years, having suffered an accident of some sort. He survived the accident by eleven weeks, but did not receive any medical attention.
It’s also possible Myles and Margaret just did not like either of these two names. Neither of them were particularly popular in Dublin then.
Margaret’s two brothers were John and Patrick, her sisters were Sarah Anne, Catherine, Mary and Ellen. Myles’ surviving brothers were Francis and Michael and he also had a sister called Alice. It’s easy to see these names being featured prominently among Myles and Margaret’s own children. I’m not sure where the names Rosanna and Elizabeth came from, possibly they were simply fashionable at the time.
So, while the traditional Irish naming customs were not followed exactly in the order specified, the names of most of the children’s grandparents, aunts and uncles are manifestly obvious. Naming practices therefore do provide important clues regarding what to look out for.
And, during the search for ancestors, if you are lucky enough to identify more than one potential family, naming patterns will likely come in handy, when narrowing down the options, at least initially.
And, during the search for ancestors, if you are lucky enough to identify more than one potential family, naming patterns will likely come in handy, when narrowing down the options, at least initially.
But, BEWARE, they are not sufficient to provide conclusive evidence as to any individual ancestor’s actual name.
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© Black Raven Genealogy
Great post! I've often used the naming pattern to track family lines with success.
ReplyDeleteMe too, Ellie! but they rarely if ever exactly followed the specified order, it was usually far more hit and miss.
ReplyDeleteWith many generations in my family using Michael and Patrick, it has been very interesting at times.. I think I'm on the way to sorting them all out.
ReplyDeleteYes Chris, sometimes it's near impossible to sort out all the first cousins into their respective families!
DeleteGreat post, Dara. I've toyed with the naming customs for my Kirk/Quirke line to try and determine the likely name for my 6th great-grandfather. But I've run into some of the same challenges you encountered here. Still, there are helpful clues to be had. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteExactly! You can't really rely on it, but you disregard it at your peril.
DeleteLoved the info...now I want to check my Irish roots for naming patterns...thanks for sharing!
ReplyDeleteThanks, I'd love to know how it goes for you!
DeleteDarn... didn't really work for me. It sorta did between 2 wives in one generation.
ReplyDeleteYou can't rely on it at all, Dianne, though there is something to it, especially in large Catholic families.
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