One of my genealogy goals for this year is to find all the children born to my second great-grandparents, Francis Byrne and Margaret McGrane. They got married in Dublin city in 1871. From the census, we know they had fourteen children altogether, although three of them died before 1911.
The baptism records of St Laurence O’Tooles church in Seville Place confirmed the names of the five eldest – Myles, James (my great-grandfather), Francis, Charles and Margaret. Their younger children, Mary Anne, Jane, John, Patrick, Paul, Kate and Benjamin, were living at home when the 1901 census was enumerated. And, since I began this quest, I’ve also discovered little Michael, born in 1887, who died of Bronchitis as an infant in 1889. Sadly, though, the name of one child remains unknown still.
The difficulty tracing some of the others started after they left home. With a surname as common as ‘Byrne’, keeping tabs on them was never going to be easy, especially as they were relatively poor and living among the labouring classes of the city. See all the blanks I’ve left to fill!
Child’s Name
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Birth date
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Death date
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Spouse, marriage year
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1
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Myles Byrne
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15 Jan 1873
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2 Nov 1928
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Elizabeth Bethel, 1897
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2
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James Byrne
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18 May 1874
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29 Jul 1948
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Christina Devine, 1897
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3
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Francis Byrne
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21 Feb 1876
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Maryanne Drennan, 1896
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4
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Charles Byrne
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6 Mar 1878
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12 Apr 1879
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None
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5
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Margaret Byrne
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15 Nov 1879
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25 Jul 1932
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James Fay, 1920
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6
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Mary Anne Byrne
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about 1882
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After 1959
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William Vickers, 1901
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7
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Jane Byrne
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about 1884
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17 Mar 1919
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James Fay, 1916
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8
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John Byrne
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about 1885
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15 Jan 1930
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Margaret Burke, 1910
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9
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Michael Byrne
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21 Oct 1887
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10 Jan 1889
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None
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10
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Patrick Byrne
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about 1890
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26 Jul 1923
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11
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Paul Byrne
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18 Sep 1891
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1959
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Kathleen McDuff, 1916
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12
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Kate Byrne
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about 1893
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13
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Ben Byrne
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21 May 1896
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1966
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Annie Porter, 1918
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14
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before 1911
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None
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Here’s what I currently ‘know’ about those with blanks:
Francis Byrne and Maryanne Drennan got married in St Agatha’s Church on 18 May 1896. In 1901, they lived at Common Street, Dublin, not far from Francis and Margaret. They had two young children at that point - Francis and James Joseph. The census enumerators seemingly missed them in 1911, but they remained in the area. They lived in Newfoundland Street in 1914 and 1915 when Francis registered to vote. Then, I lost them again.
Mary Anne Byrne married William Vickers, on 18 August 1901, in St Laurence O’Toole’s parish. The couple were living in Lower Oriel Street in 1911, with their son Patrick. Mary A. Vickers was still living there in December 1912 when she registered her father’s death. And, by 1930, when her mother died, she had moved out to Ellenfield in Drumcondra.
John Byrne, aged fifteen years, was living with his parents in 1901 but had left home by 1911. Chances are he married in the intervening ten years. But, so too did forty-odd other men in the area who shared his name. I’m now fairly sure what happened to him, a story I’ll share on another day, soon.
Update: See further information on John Byrne in the following posts:
13 Aug 2016 - Granny's Favourite Cousin
20 Aug 2016 - More about my great-granduncle, John Byrne
Update: See further information on John Byrne in the following posts:
13 Aug 2016 - Granny's Favourite Cousin
20 Aug 2016 - More about my great-granduncle, John Byrne
Patrick Byrne, a married man, died at 5 Upper Rutland Street on 26 July 1923. He shares a grave with his parents at Glasnevin Cemetery. On 2 April 1911, he was single and still living at home, so his marriage took place after this date. But, like John, there are too many potential marriage records in this name to ascertain the name of his bride.
In 1911, Kate Byrne was seventeen years old, single, and earning her keep as a paper bag maker. In October 1920, she witnessed the marriage of her sister Margaret to James Fay. The use of her maiden name suggests she was still single at this time. Then, she too disappeared among the many others named Kate (or Katie, Kathleen, etc.) Byrne, in Dublin city.
So, if you descend from any of these Byrnes, or if you think you can fill in the missing details, please do let me know. All hints, gladly accepted!
Updated 17 Sep 2016 at: Filling in the blanks just got way easier
Updated 17 Sep 2016 at: Filling in the blanks just got way easier
Sources: Research certificates, General Register Office; 1901 and 1911 census, National Archives of Ireland; Church registers, Irishgenealogy.ie; Burial register, Glasnevin Trust; Dublin city electoral rolls, Dublin City Library & Archive.
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You know a lot about this family, much more than the blanks in the table would suggest. I especially like the way you've organized the info into a neat table that shows, at a glance, who's who and what you're still researching. Good idea!
ReplyDeleteThanks Marian, it would be nice to know what happened to them.
DeleteThis sounds like a doable goal. Surely clues can pop up in various places like obits. I know - I know -- easier said than done. Your chart is a good visual aid to keep you on track and remind you of what work needs to be done.
ReplyDeleteWendy, I suppose I'm hoping some of their descendants will recognise their great-grandparents and contact me with the details :-)
DeleteI like seeing it in a chart and keep thinking I need to be better about organizing it that way so that I can see it.
ReplyDeleteI hope you get some help from descendants!